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  Justice in Historic Australian investigation says Jehovah's Witnesses child protection policies WORST

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  historic investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.

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  never a jw

  Watchtower-free
  

  I read the transcript and justice McClelland is not saying JW's procedures are the worst. He is saying they have different flaws from the flaws of others. I think you are misreading the context, even the text itself.
  
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  JW's accussed to be Russian spies

  by never a jw in

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  i have been exchanging emails with my brother who is a jw.

  i tried to convince him to watch the hearings of the royal commission, but he sent me a long list of reasons why he didn't trust "la obra teatral" (theater) and therefore he wouldn't watch anything.

  he went on a rant of persecution stories in australia and how various governments would try to impede the preaching work.

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  I need help. I have been exchanging emails with my brother who is a JW. I tried to convince him to watch the hearings of the Royal Commission, but he sent me a long list of reasons why he didn't trust "la obra teatral" (theater) and therefore he wouldn't watch anything. He went on a rant of persecution stories in Australia and how various governments would try to impede the preaching work. Lots of crazy stuff. The one that called my attention the most is that JW's were accused in America of being Russian spies, and the rest of the world accused them of being American spies.

  Where did that come from? Is that an urban legend made up by a JW or is it from the WT?
  
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  never a jw

  I keep wondering where JWfacts (Paul) is. I get the feeling that he has something to do with the level of expertise on JWs of the Commission. He may have been one the ones who alerted the commission about pedophile haven too.
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

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  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  never a jw

  Vidiot,
  

  No apology needed, I just missed the joke and really had no idea what to make of your comment.
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  never a jw

  Vidiot,
  

  Mexico? what's that about. I just happen to be Mexican and the other guy is Hispanic from an Island in the Caribbean that has been in the news lately.

  Regarding Mexico, it's possible that Mexico takes a look into this issue. There are many JW's, 700k maybe? They tend to have unrestrained libidos and need a diversion from the Chapo Guzman debacle.
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  never a jw

  There's more. I called him incompetent in the previous email, and he too umbrage. Here's the latest:

  No, Felipe, I am not an incompetent elder. I may be very incompetent in many things, but being an elder is not one of them.
  I fear the real problem is that you have decided to find something against the Witnesses, for reasons I have stated before, and your biases are clouding your judgement.
  And You are being very unfair to us, to yourself and to Truth itself.

  Elder
  

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  Dear Elder

  Its not just me. Its the Australian government and many tribunals and news organizations around the world. And I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. But, oh well it is the system of Satan. I am sure Satan is the one giving the incriminating responses to the elders in the hearings and is making me read incriminating information in the mountain of documents produced by the Watchtower. It seems that Satan has more persuasive powers than the holy spirit that selected these Australian elders.

  Dont missthe the live streaming today at 6 or 7 our time. It's better than reality tv, better than movies of good vs. evil. Dont miss it.

  Felipe
  

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  No, of course not.
  But you are being duped.
  I feel sorry for you, Felipe, honestly.
  You really need to wisen up before it's too late.
  For my part, I am not going to follow your lead.
  You've really taken the wrong road, and there's no one to blame but yourself.

  Elder
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  never a jw

  Oops!. Too late to edit. I guess too many clues are given (names, Hispanic cong, Los Angeles area). Anyone from the area can figure it out. Might as well be reckless and provide one more clue: i reside in Burbank CA. What the hell, let them disfellowship me, if they can.
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  never a jw

  The following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me. It's a Hispanic congregation in Los Angeles area:

  Is it a cult or not??
  

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  Dear elder,
  
  I have been following what's going on in Australia in the offices of the Royal Commission regarding case 29. It's a slaughter house and Satan is getting increasingly vicious. He is in full control,
  
  If you are a JW in a position of authority and testifying, it's ugly. If the findings of the hearings motivate other worldly governments to act in similar fashion to the Royal Commission, Satan has a good chance of winning the war between the forces of good and evil. I am taking Satan's side. You should too. But if you want to remain loyal to the Watchtower, at least read the news so you can anticipate the denouement. Even better, tune in to the hearings live in the internet from 6 or 7 pm on, our time, except for today. You can even download tons of information: testimonies and exhibits, including letters between Australia's branch office and elder's, judicial committees documents, relevant wt publication, elder's book with commentary and lots more. Thousands of pages of stuff that even apostates don't have.
  
  I think John of Patmos picked the wrong contender. Revelation will have to be re-written.

  never a jw
  

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  Dear never a jw:

  I assure you I am sensitive to child abuse and lying. They are both contemptable. But I don't think it prudent to turn my back on more than 100 years of truth because of a court hearing. I have seen way too many where truth was erased by unscrupulous prosecutors.
  Sorry, I'm not biting your bait.

  Elder
  

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  Dear elder,

  Jorge,
  
  More than a 100 of truth? When have you put under objective scrutiny anything written by the Watchtower before your time (between 1879 and 1975). I have serious doubts that you have read any publications during that period. Regarding the hearings in Australia, you reached your conclusions without looking at the evidence, which is the testimony of victims, elders, circuit overseers and members of the Australian branch, together with many confidential watchtower documents, including letters from the branch, manuals, financial statements, judicial committees decisions and more. You certainly should be completely disqualified from any jury duty and mainly from any JW's judicial committee. You just proved how incompetent elders are to serve in a judicial committee.
  
  Felipe.
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  In View of R.C.hearing of J.W.& child Sexual Abuse in Aust. and it`s Worldwide Coverage.can we expect ....?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  are we likely to see a definite drop in new bible studies , interest in the religion ,a drop in meeting attendance ,especially in lands where this is widely reported ?

  or even an exodus from many in the congregations who may view this as the last straw ?.

  their have only been 3 days of this inquiry so far and the incompetence of the elders to articulate their position is painful to observe , they are ignorant to the extreme .showing a total disinterest in the whole proceedings.. when questioned , they have not bothered to understand the purpose of the commission , nor read any of the previous days proceedings ,nor have they bothered to read the victims statement ,and have shown a total disregard for the whole procedure .. surely any thinking person with half a brain would back away from any involvement with this religion .. i am overjoyed that this inquiry is getting worldwide media attention ,i hope you are too .. i commented on an article in ghana africa that ran with this story , so the sexual abuse of children within the jehovah`s witness organization is getting worldwide coverage .. what do you think ?.

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  never a jw

  "You'd have to be an uber-masochist to want to be "appointed" now" @The searcher
  

  No more JW girls marrying in Australia. AMIII requires to be at least ministerial servant to be marriage material. AMIII shot himself in the foot. JW's are not getting new converts and their supply of children will disappear thanks to the Royal Commission investigation.
  
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  Governing body deceiving members on purpose?

  by wwjdnwt in

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  2. beliefs

  i was born into this religion.

  i was a jw for well over 30 years.

  i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.

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  The governing body is composed of mindless puppets. Therefore, they are innocent deluded people. I think the evil come from the people with power. Follow the money trail